[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean... once they make the decision, then all the temptations from the outside world are gone, at least physically. So I think it'd be easier to stick to your vows.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
....are you feeling tempted?

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
You know the answer to that.

I've already been to Confession and I don't feel any better.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, cherie.

Maybe you should live a little before you lock it up. The nice thing about being Catholic is that you can repent anything.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
We kissed. But he was really drugged up and it was a bad decision not only because of that.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Why don't you tell me why this bothers you so much? Is it just the temptation of the flesh thing?

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Novitiates aren't supposed to date. And this is worse than that because it's just - it's kissing a boy I'm not even involved with. And we really don't have much in common and clearly it isn't going to end in, like, marriage so why should I give up my calling to a religious life just because I find myself suddenly completely infatuated with a boy? It's not like I haven't had crushes before, after all, but I decided that God was more important and now I just feel ...lost.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. See, this is why I like you. It is not temptation of the flesh but of the heart. Oh, cherie. You've got SOUL!

Why is the Church the authority on God?

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, there's a bit of the flesh part, too.

Because Christ started the Church by anointing Peter the first Pope.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
DUH. He's so hot. It makes me weak in the knees.

Yeah but like, how do we know that maybe Peter had a different view on dating? Maybe they never write it down properly.

Hell, what would all the women of the Church who we never heard about say about the issue? I bet they'd wanna get nailed too.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Look. I don't agree with the Church much. The stuff that I love about it (and yes, FINE, there's still stuff I love about it) is so often buried in corruption and hate, and it hurts.

But I respect your faith. And as much as I joke about me making you fall from grace, I don't actually want to ruin you. I want you to be happy and strong and amazing, because... I dunno. Just because. Because you're ginger.

And I frankly think that God is NOT tempting you. I think if anything He is showing you choices and opportunities.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
I hate not knowing what to do or what God's path is for me. I was so sure about it and now I'm not sure about anything.

I don't know what choice God wants me to make, no matter how hard I pray. I hate this.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's scary, I know. But I find people who are 100% sure are often delusional and dangerous.

Maybe you're praying too loud and you need to shut up and listen.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think I'm over-thinking this? It kind of feels like this, but.. it's either I think about it or I cry and I'm getting tired of crying.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you should cry, cherie. You kissed a boy. So what? Would God - a really truly loving God like the one we knew as children - really begrudge you that?

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
But I promised Him that I wouldn't do any of that. That I'd focus my life on Him. And instead I meet a boy and three weeks later I'm considering throwing that all to the side just because of his laugh.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
God works in mysterious ways.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like... I'm going to let everyone down no matter what I choose. And like I need to choose quickly. But it's.. Maybe I should talk to Tony.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to choose quickly. That's just your mind pressuring you because it's confused.

Ouais, talk to him. But not until he's healed up. He feels bad enough already.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think I should just.. keep my distance for a bit?

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
No, not really, unless you're truly uncomfortable.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
I wish I could just go to bed tonight and wake up and it'd all be fixed.

I can't not avoid him and not talk about it, though... It'll seem like I'm avoiding the topic.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
I know the feeling.

You're not bad, you know.

Well. Whatever you think is best then, cherie. Wait til he's released at least, then take care of it.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
I feel a little bad.

Maybe I will just sleep on it and... well, it won't be fixed, but I can at least be a little more rational.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
I just... feel like I betrayed God by becoming interested in Tony. And like I was unfair to Tony, like I am unfair to Tony, by letting him know of my interest before I've decided what to do about it. Although I guess it's obviously not completely my decision where we go from here.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Answer me this honestly: have I betrayed God by falling for men?

Tony's not dumb. He knows nothing is easy, and feelings are frankly new to him too.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so. But I don't know. Obviously I'm not the best person to go to for catechizes.

That's true. You're right.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Then why would God be mad at you? S/He is love.

I frequently am!

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Because I'm weak. And because I broke my promise. I was vain and set myself up as holier than I really am and at the first sign of temptation, I came crashing down.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
You're looking at this from a very narrow point of view.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
You know what you should do?

Sleep on it. Listen to dreams. Like... okay, this is pure blasphemy probably, but I know a woman who swears you get messages that way.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
...Yeah, I think that's pretty heretical. Especially since dreams are just our unconscious minds trying to make sense of the random neuron firing going on. My dreams are usually retellings of Disney movies.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
She says we can hear things when our conscious minds aren't junking it up.

[identity profile] nohabitshere.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
I personally don't believe that, at least.

[identity profile] speed-of-snark.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Might be worth a shot.


She's spooky, this woman.